tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post2925952668632690736..comments2024-01-20T16:28:46.327-08:00Comments on Wordgazer's Words: Does The New Testament Teach that Women Should Be Housekeepers?Kristenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-9469757543375900482012-05-14T19:57:34.243-07:002012-05-14T19:57:34.243-07:00A very good point, Don.
You're welcome, Anon....A very good point, Don.<br /><br />You're welcome, Anon. :)Kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-60911937226340117992012-05-14T11:09:42.737-07:002012-05-14T11:09:42.737-07:00I think the FIRST thing to realize about the Titus...I think the FIRST thing to realize about the Titus 2 passage is that Paul is giving a 1st century APPLICATION of the Kingdom principle that everyone is to be taught. This in itself was very radical, as women were typically given only superficial instruction in Roman society, except curiously the courtesans.<br /><br />As it is an application, the details of the application can change in different circumstances, while the principle remains.Donald Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07904992652259586383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-2668737001215467922012-05-14T08:34:40.588-07:002012-05-14T08:34:40.588-07:00"Ironically, one of the things that gives Chr..."Ironically, one of the things that gives Christianity a bad name in America today is the teaching that husbands are in authority and wives are to be subordinate. In following the letter of the verse, many Christians are completely missing the point!"<br /><br />I was trying to figure out how to explain this just this morning, but you have stolen the words from my mouth! :) Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-79287651568902837822012-05-12T18:45:18.281-07:002012-05-12T18:45:18.281-07:00Yes, I agree that Paul is saying women, like the o...Yes, I agree that Paul is saying women, like the other groups he names in the same passage (young men and slaves) should be diligent and not lazy. But remember, Paul was not speaking directly to women here, or to young men or to slaves. He was talking to Titus, who was in Crete, about how to work with the church there. I think the main thrust of the passage is, "Titus, here's how to counsel church members to behave in order to give a good impression of the faith to the people of Crete." Sure, laziness and mismanagement are not what Christ is about-- but that wasn't what Paul was saying specifically here. He was saying, "Teach the young women not to be lazy or to mismanage their households, because that would give the church a bad name."<br /><br />Once Paul's meaning is ascertained, then the <i>application</i> of the verse to women today could be something like you describe. But I would apply it more like this: "Hey, ladies, don't do anything that will make the people around you think Christianity is a bad thing." Ironically, one of the things that gives Christianity a bad name in America today is the teaching that husbands are in authority and wives are to be subordinate. In following the letter of the verse, many Christians are completely missing the point!Kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-65923437413491477362012-05-12T16:09:02.016-07:002012-05-12T16:09:02.016-07:00So, would you say the basic thrust of this verse i...So, would you say the basic thrust of this verse is to entreat women to avoid laziness and work diligently, rather than establishing a sphere that they are commanded to stay inside?<br /><br />That's always how I have viewed the emphasis in that verse. Not "Hey ladies, don't leave your house" but rather "Hey ladies, look at all this responsibility you have. Don't be lazy about it, because laziness and mismanagement is not what Christ is about!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com