tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post1688086729742137435..comments2024-01-20T16:28:46.327-08:00Comments on Wordgazer's Words: Fathers' Influence on Children's Church Attendance: What Does this Study Actually Show? Kristenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-42749523390274514612017-09-18T05:02:45.209-07:002017-09-18T05:02:45.209-07:00Hi, Kristen, I enjoyed reading your article about ...Hi, Kristen, I enjoyed reading your article about the influence of fathers on a child's churchgoing. Personally, I think, as you already pointed out, that mother's usually are the primary caregivers. This usually translates into less leisure time for mothers than it does for fathers. A non-practicing, primary caregiver mother may be happy to get the kids ready for church with dad, because this may be the only time she may have time to herself especially if she does not object to dad teaching them about his religion. She may also want to promote more bonding time with dad because this is something she has just by virtue of being the primary caregiver. A non-practicing father is less likely to help get the kids off to church even if he does not object to the mother teaching the kids about her religion because he has more leisure time. Just my opinion.silvereyes1945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-32668851774646262152014-10-16T20:15:02.706-07:002014-10-16T20:15:02.706-07:00Also:
1) Regular church attendance and irregular ...Also: <br />1) Regular church attendance and irregular church attendance are relative terms. It is possible that those whose mothers went to church more often than their fathers got influenced by their mothers to see going to church every Sunday, but not praying often and reading the Bible daily as “irregular” practice of religion. Meanwhile, those whose fathers went to church more often could have gotten influenced by their mothers to see attending church two Sundays a month as “regular” religious practice. (Evidence suggest that we learn our original word usage mostly from mothers. Hence the term “mother tongue.”) If mothers influence how children see the idea of “regular” religious observance, then ideas above is comparing apples to oranges.<br />2) If the above data actually was correct, and the will of God, it would support a world where dad, not mom, stay home and look after the children. Rethahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03702434308774018161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-29248054733624856082014-09-18T21:04:08.843-07:002014-09-18T21:04:08.843-07:00Benjamin, thanks for that-- you made me laugh. I t...Benjamin, thanks for that-- you made me laugh. I tend to think it's only common courtesy to let a blog writer run his or her own blog. If a man can't even let a woman lead on her own ground, then it seems to me that either he's very insecure, or someone is telling him lies about what masculinity is. Or both. Kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-6616326737987893122014-09-16T17:16:30.936-07:002014-09-16T17:16:30.936-07:00I thought I'd wait to see how you wanted to ha...I thought I'd wait to see how you wanted to handle the anonymous before I said anything. Good idea- I'll follow your lead on that one. <br /><br />(Which makes me SUCH a horrible guy and a horrific failure, letting a woman lead me. Alas~! ;) ) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03319494271024074214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-82032142879964826872014-09-16T12:12:03.380-07:002014-09-16T12:12:03.380-07:00Benjamin - Thank you! And thanks for continuing to...Benjamin - Thank you! And thanks for continuing to read & comment here!<br /><br />2nd Anonymous - there's really no point in trying to discuss this with anyone as certain and completely sure as you. All I will say is that having all the answers and therefore rejecting the rest of the questions, is a very good way to never learn anything new or grow any further. Kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-62912337933413861542014-09-15T14:30:59.117-07:002014-09-15T14:30:59.117-07:00We don't need endless studies, often from ungo...We don't need endless studies, often from ungodly men who are not subject to the clear, unmistakable, and unchangeable word of God.<br />God, in His wisdom, made man the head of the union between man and his wife. He has created a desire in the woman to be loved, and in the man to be respected, and there is no amount of social re-engineering that can change that. God's Laws are not suggestions, or pieces of advice; they are Laws--more valid than gravity and all other laws of science. Why don't modern women spare themselves some grief, and receive the engrafted which is able to bring them boundless joy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-80217610619432754332014-09-14T07:42:06.087-07:002014-09-14T07:42:06.087-07:00Brilliant article, Kristen. Didn't even notice...Brilliant article, Kristen. Didn't even notice that it's "better," in terms of raw numbers, for the mom to just plain stay home than to join the family in church. If more complementarians mentioned that, I might think they were taking the study seriously, but... sadly, as you say, they're likely just indulging in a bit of confirmation bias.<br /><br />Of course, part of me is also just... aggravated at the blindness of it. By any meaningful standard, the church is in decline, both in terms of importance of the lives of even the 'faithful' and in terms of attendance. Yet there's still such a focus on pet theologies! Ugh, it gets so frustrating, sometimes!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03319494271024074214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-16365008181747376382014-09-13T22:49:57.533-07:002014-09-13T22:49:57.533-07:00Believer333 - good point!
Anonymous, I don't ...Believer333 - good point!<br /><br />Anonymous, I don't think logic has anything to do with their position. I think what it comes down to is, "The traditional power structures that keep everyone in their places (and us on top) are good and right-- and you'd better agree with us because Bible."Kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-60261177004212056972014-09-13T16:17:48.431-07:002014-09-13T16:17:48.431-07:00Wait....so if I'm understanding correctly the ...Wait....so if I'm understanding correctly the complementarians that you quoted, their view is that dads are more important for their children's faith development, BUT, somehow this study also proves that moms are more important nurterers when their kids are little? How does that make sense?? Moms are the ones who have to do all the dirty work when the kids are little, and the dads are the cool ones who are wired to introduce the kids to the outside world as they get older (do moms live in the outside world too)?<br /><br />I would laugh if I weren't so busy sobbing.<br /><br />How can someone look at this study, draw some kind of "Super Dad Influence" conclusion, but continue to actively believe that dads AREN'T that important to nurturing and small-child development? Do these people lie awake at night inventing illogical double-standards just to make everyone mad?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7971820842270330168.post-33133113054825701272014-09-13T13:14:26.066-07:002014-09-13T13:14:26.066-07:00As you point out, there are too many factors about...As you point out, there are too many factors about this study that are left out. Why is a father or mother irregular or non-practicing. Are they absent, ill, disabled, divorced, etc.believer333https://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.com